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**cosyfiep** · Oct 17, 2008, 07:37 PM // 19:37

regina, yeah right.

yes weekends are the worst, weekdays have hiccups when its fine then BAM! a bunch of dc's in a row...lag up the wazzzuuu and then back to normal

if this is happening to lots of people I cant think that its us....but maybe something close to where the server is???

maraxusofk · Oct 17, 2008, 07:43 PM // 19:43

my guess would be anet is shifting resources to test gw2 already.

Michael805 · Oct 17, 2008, 07:46 PM // 19:46

In HA the last few days, entire teams have been getting lag spikes that kick up average pings to 10k+.

In one match, 5 people on my team couldn't move or use skills for ~15 seconds.

Fix please/thanks.

Numa Pompilius · Oct 17, 2008, 07:48 PM // 19:48

I'm getting lag now, and not only that, but it's weird lag.

99% of the time I'm now having the lowest ping I've ever had in GW, around 50 instead of my normal 250, but the remaining 1% of the time my ping is about 4000.
And it's in short bursts. When the character stops responding I just leave the game for a minute or two, when I return my ping is 50 again.
The problem is not on my side, but I don't know if it's ANets servers or some connection in between that chokes.

Does anyone remember what the command to start the graphical diagnostic tool of GW was? I'd be interested in seeing if the lagspikes occur at fixed intervals.

HawkofStorms · Oct 17, 2008, 08:02 PM // 20:02

Well, its hard for me to judge since I've switched internet connections several times. I have very minimal lag right now, but I am also on the fastest computer/internet connection I've ever had right now.

Really, I think that is a factor a lot of people don't consider. Has your computer started to get dragged down with more applications? Have you moved?
I mean, very few people probablly have had the exact same internet provider, comptuer, and set up over the course of 3 years.

Vazze · Oct 17, 2008, 08:02 PM // 20:02

Lag has been brutal in the past few weeks. I have a 15s lag spike in every 15 minutes. Try to PvP with that! And as usual, not a word from ANET, like "sry, working on it", not even "stfu bastards it is free isn't it".
I installed a ping monitor to see where I was standing at and I was amazed to see that on average anet servers had double the ping of random servers on the other side of the globe (and of course the lag spikes came from GW servers)!
WTF, when did ANET outsource the servers to the Mongolian steppes?

beserk · Oct 17, 2008, 08:12 PM // 20:12

I too must admit from suffering terrible lags (5kMS!!) in recent weeks, just hope its resolved sooner than later.

Winterclaw · Oct 17, 2008, 08:14 PM // 20:14

It's either a trick to get us all to move on to GW2 or all those newly unemployed people are now DLing porn which is clogging up the internet.

Numa Pompilius · Oct 17, 2008, 10:23 PM // 22:23

Seriously, can anyone remember what the command was to enable the graphical diagnostic tool overlay?
Not -perf, but this one: http://s211.photobucket.com/albums/b...rent=gw058.jpg

Red-Tide · Oct 17, 2008, 11:06 PM // 23:06

What I find disturbing is the fact that numerous of these threads have been started and there has been no sign of anyone from Anet, not one response that I can recall. Has Regina posted here recently? I dont recall seeing anyone from Anet around in recent weeks.

In the past these threads would usually get a response from them but not this time...

ProgTes · Oct 17, 2008, 11:30 PM // 23:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

Seriously, can anyone remember what the command was to enable the graphical diagnostic tool overlay?
Not -perf, but this one: http://s211.photobucket.com/albums/b...rent=gw058.jpg

F10 or F11 while ingame if I remember correctly.

I have a laptop which is perfectly capable of playing GW at 60 fps and a very good internet connection. I do have a ping of >300 ms while playing UW in American districts but I guess that's because I'm Euro. So maybe that's part of the problem but I don't know, it seems worse than it was a few months ago. Or am I getting paranoid?

Shenbear · Oct 18, 2008, 12:00 AM // 00:00

Everyone needs to remember that often times you have to think of the connections -between- your computer and the GW servers. You are not running an express fiber optic or null cable between your computer and the server. Your signal is being sent to a central hub which is then rebroadcast to the right location, most often more than one time.

There are a couple of things you might want to consider before you all go QQ I HATE YOU ANET as you all seem so keen on doing.

1. Your ISP might be engaging in clandestine (or even blatant) "slowing down" of your network connection. We've seen the court cases where certain ISPs admitted and defended their position on "slowing down" certain people's connections because they claimed that the amount of bandwidth being taken up needed to be regulated. Online gaming takes up way more bandwidth than general surfing, so they may be targeting you. (Don't know if this affects people outside the US).

2. The modern internet hubs take light signals from the fiber optic cable sent from your computer, convert it into an electric signal, route it to the correct location, convert it back into a light signal, and sends it on its way. This takes a lot of time (on a computing time scale) and if there is a lot of traffic at the hub, there will be delays as the machines backlog trying to route the signals to the right places. Thus it is a (probably good) possibility that somewhere between your computer and Anet's servers, there is a backlog. Thus you get lagspikes as you wait for your signal to be sent to the servers or vice versa. This would be more pronounced if it is a hub that all information to/from GW servers must pass through that is lagging because when many people are logged on, the hub gets blocked up.

Let's think a little here people. It's not like Anet runs our instances on set of 286s. Modern game servers can easily handle and process large loads of incoming traffic. If it was a problem with Anet hardware, you'd be unable to load in to certain areas or -everyone- would lag out of an instance at the same time, not just a few people.

A bit of information that seems to confirm my statements: I often play GW with my wife and when we get a d/c, we always get it at the same time and tend to reconnect within seconds of one another. Thus, it is neither our individual systems that are the issue (we both play on new laptops) nor is it GW itself (because our entire CoF team doesn't lag out). It is most likely to be an issue somewhere between the two.

This was shown, as a previous poster noted, during the large lag issues over in Europe awhile ago.

byteme! · Oct 18, 2008, 12:39 AM // 00:39

What is this lag people are talking about? I've upgraded my PC. Overclocked it from 2.53ghz to 4ghz on air and I have yet to experience this massive lag. Are you people sure it's the GW server and not your cereal box pc or bad ISP?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red-Tide

What I find disturbing is the fact that numerous of these threads have been started and there has been no sign of anyone from Anet, not one response that I can recall. Has Regina posted here recently? I dont recall seeing anyone from Anet around in recent weeks.

In the past these threads would usually get a response from them but not this time...

Why would anyone have to respond "directly to this post"? You don't think they get tons of this crap all day everyday anyways? If there really was a problem on their end I'm sure something as critical as keeping their servers up would have been dealt with already. If there really was an issue server side we would "all" experience it not just a random few unlucky individuals. I say you check your entire system and connections before you demand an answer from Anet. As it stands right now Anet doesn't have a solution for "your" problems.

Gwmaster · Oct 18, 2008, 12:41 AM // 00:41

what i find really weird..is that while i was getting disconnected in the dungeon, me and my friend were on vent...but we didn't get kicked off vent..my internet worked fine.I don't think its my computer either,i have no viruses..4gb of ram,8800gtx overclocked 1.5gb video ram, quad core, cpu temperature of 30-35 Celcious average..there shouldn't be a problem with running guild wars if i can run multiple copies of Crisis in the background. Maybe Shenbear is right, but a lot of people are experiencing it..when the whole freaking alliance says out loud in chat "wtf got disconnected" "lag" "30k ping" it isn't normal.

Michael805 · Oct 18, 2008, 12:41 AM // 00:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by byteme!

What is this lag people are talking about? I've upgraded my PC. Overclocked it from 2.53ghz to 4ghz on air and I have yet to experience this massive lag. Are you people sure it's the GW server and not your cereal box pc or bad ISP?

Once your CPU melts, and you're forced to go back to your Dell, you'll figure out that processor speed doesn't make your ping spike 10,000 for 60 seconds, then return to normal. Nor does it do this to multiple people simultaneously.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael805

In HA the last few days, entire teams have been getting lag spikes that kick up average pings to 10k+.

In one match, 5 people on my team couldn't move or use skills for ~15 seconds.

Fix please/thanks.

Age · Oct 18, 2008, 12:44 AM // 00:44

I do get lag spikes once in while in the late evenings not so much in the early mornings.American Server Pacific.

enter_the_zone · Oct 18, 2008, 12:56 AM // 00:56

Too many people for this to be user based. It's probably one of their link suppliers again.

byteme! · Oct 18, 2008, 12:57 AM // 00:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael805

Once your CPU melts, and you're forced to go back to your Dell, you'll figure out that processor speed doesn't make your ping spike 10,000 for 60 seconds, then return to normal. Nor does it do this to multiple people simultaneously.

When my cpu melts I'll be buying a new one and most likely faster then the previous. A non issue. Not that it'll happen anyways. Yay me! Btw Dell sucks. And yes on my old system with my crappy IDE HD's, [email protected], and 850XT GW did lag at times. Lagging for 60 seconds was almost expected. My HD's were full. System virtually slowed to a halt. I have 2 gigs of Ram which I felt was nowhere near enough for the tasks that I run on a daily basis. Heat as another issue as well. Heck I could write a whole essay on this but I don't see the point. You know my system more then I do. o_O

vdz · Oct 18, 2008, 01:13 AM // 01:13

I keep lolling here at the so called "comp experts" claiming it's our system.
I hate repeating myself because i think you showed some interest in this topic by posting, therefore you should have read it, But franky i think we got some QQ's in the house.

No it has nothing to do with our specs, and no it hasnt nothing to do with our inet. Why?

- No lag during any other online game AND / OR online application

- People lagging at the SAME TIME

- People disconnecting at the SAME TIME

- People expierencing more lag during weekends

Only this last fact alone already shows that the servers are running at their limits.

Remember, we're talking about lag spikes here, not constant lag or stuttering which indeed may be caused by any kind of programming/system error.

If you havent got any major lag spikes at the moment, good for you. Pray to the lord that you wont get them. You're very lucky. You may think it's because ur imba computer rocks the heavens, but ey im sorry its not your comp.

byteme! · Oct 18, 2008, 01:20 AM // 01:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by vdz

I keep lolling here at the so called "comp experts" claiming it's our system.
I hate repeating myself because i think you showed some interest in this topic by posting, therefore you should have read it, But franky i think we got some QQ's in the house.

No it has nothing to do with our specs, and no it hasnt nothing to do with our inet. Why?

- No lag during any other online game AND / OR online application

- People lagging at the SAME TIME

- People disconnecting at the SAME TIME

- People expierencing more lag during weekends

Only this last fact alone already shows that the servers are running at their limits.

Remember, we're talking about lag spikes here, not constant lag or stuttering which indeed may be caused by any kind of programming/system error.

If you havent got any major lag spikes at the moment, good for you. Pray to the lord that you wont get them. You're very lucky. You may think it's because ur imba computer rocks the heavens, but ey im sorry its not your comp.

I'm not naive. I'm not ignorant. In fact at 1 time I was "exactly" like you. I mentioned the "exact" same things you mentioned. I lagged alot. I saw others lagging just as much as me. I blamed Anet just like you are doing right this very second. Your story is nothing new to me. How did I solve my own problems? I bought a new PC. My problems are gone. I am no longer blaming Anet for my problems. Remember I can relate to everything you said. I WAS IN YOUR SHOES NOT TOO LONG AGO. So go ahead and "LOL" at my wannabe PC expertise big boy. Only problem I have left is my ISP sometimes kicks out but again that may be an issue on my end but I`ll have to look into it.

Before this gets out of hand. I`m not blaming anyone or anything. I`m suggesting that some of you may want to check your systems. If in fact it isn`t your pc then good for you. But it doesn`t hurt to find out right?